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イラクのハイダル・アバディ連邦議会副議長は8月11日、マスーム大統領から新首相に指名され、新内閣の組閣を命じられた。ハフィントンポストUK版は6月末、アバディ氏への独占インタビューに成功している。
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イラクで最も重要な政治家のひとりが、アメリカが空爆を拒否し続けるならばイラクはイランにイスラム過激派組織「ISIS」(イスラム国) への空爆を求める用意があると警告した。
イラク国会議員でヌーリー・アル＝マリキ首相率いるダーワ党の報道官ハイダル・アバディ氏が、ハフィントンポストUK版の独占インタビューに応じた。アバディ氏は、ISISがイラクにとって大きな脅威であるとした上で、「どんな支援でも受け入れます。たとえイランからであってもです」と述べた。
イラクの政府高官が、アメリカの軍事力が行使されないイラクに対し、イランが大規模な軍事介入に踏み切る可能性について公式に発言するのは初めてとみられる。
「アメリカが我々を支援してくれるのを待ち望んでいます」とアバディ氏は述べた。「もしアメリカが空爆を行えば、イランが空爆する必要はありません。もしアメリカが行わなければ、イランの空爆が必要となるかもしれません」。アバディ氏はさらに、トルコ空軍の支援も考えられると述べた。
アメリカのジョン・ケリー国務長官は、イラク国内で派閥抗争が起き、地上戦でイラクの治安部隊がISISの制圧に失敗する可能性に触れ、アメリカが空爆に踏み切るのは「完全に無責任な行為」と、否定的な見解を示した。
連邦議会副議長で、2006年、2010年の首相選挙でも候補者として名前が上がっていたアバディ氏は、「イラクは最小限の支援で生き延びられるし、イラク軍はISISのイスラム過激派兵士からバグダッドを守ることができるが、空爆はISISを地域から追い出すために必要だ」と述べた。
ケリー国務長官は、イラクにおけるISISに対するアメリカの空爆実施には及び腰だ。
6月末に、ISISは現在の制圧地域である北部シリアのアレッポから東部イラクのディヤラ地方に「カリフ」（イスラム教の最高指導者）の支配権を打ち立てたことを宣言し、ISISのリーダー、アブ・バクル・アル＝バグダディをカリフおよび「全地域のムスリムの主導者」として任命した。
アバディ氏によれば、ISISの勢力拡大は中東全域、ひいては西側にとって「大惨事」になるという。ここ最近はイギリスの若いイスラム教徒がISISと戦うためシリアとイラクへ旅立つという現象が起きている。そして彼らがイギリスに戻ると、国内の治安悪化につながるかもしれないという懸念が起こっている。
アバディ氏の見解によると、ISISがイギリスに与える脅威は「甚大」だと警告する。ISISのイデオロギーは単なるイスラム教一派の主張ではなく、「彼らと異なる人間全員」と戦うことに基づている。
ISISの組織自身がイラクに定着しておらず、外国人傭兵への依存度が非常に高いと見られているのに対して、彼は次のように反論した。「ISISは今、イラク北部のニネベ地方の村々に入り込み、若者を集めています。ISISの内部に新しい世代のイラク人が入り込んでいるのです」。
しかし、アバディ氏は、マリキ政権がイラクで少数派のスンニ派を孤立に追いやり、迫害しているとの非難に反論した。こうした責任論は、ヒラリー・クリントン前国務長官などが支持している。「どんな国でも、全国民が政府を支持するなんてことがありえるでしょうか？」とアバディ氏は述べた。
一方で、アバディ氏はバグダッドの中央政府からイラク北部のスンニ派を孤立させ、イラクの治安部隊が「残虐行為」をはたらいたことを認めた。アバディ氏は「怒りに耳を傾けなければいけません。正しい情報もあれば、そうでない情報もあります」と述べた。
マリキ首相の解任が、イラクの政情と治安の危機を解消するきっかけとなるか？
また、アバディ氏は、マリキ首相を解任し、'救国内閣’を組閣するだけでは現在の治安危機の政治的解決にはつながらないだろうと述べた。「ISISは、これからのイラクでの行動計画を練っています。我々が何をしようと、仮にスンニ派の首相を擁立したとしても、彼らは首相に反対するでしょう。彼らはアヤド・アラーウィ前首相の就任にも反対しました。彼がシーア派でなく、世俗派だったからです」。
アバディ氏は最後にこう述べた「ニネベ地方で、ISIS兵士たちが殺戮しているのはシーア派だけではありません。彼らに忠誠を誓わないスンニ派も同様なのです。派閥抗争に巻き込まれないよう留意しなければなりません。シーア派がスンニ派に敵対しているわけではなく、スンニ派がシーア派に敵対しているわけでもないのです」。
アメリカ軍がイラク空爆
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An Iraqi Yazidi child, whose family fled their home a week ago when Islamic State (IS) militants attacked the town of Sinjar, looks on at a makeshift shelter on August 10, 2014 in the Kurdish city of Dohuk in Iraq\'s autonomous Kurdistan region. \'The Kurdish peshmerga forces have succeeded in making 30,000 Yazidis who fled Mount Sinjar, most of them women and children, cross into Syria and return to Kurdistan,\' said Shawkat Barbahari, a Kurdhish official who is in charge of the Fishkhabur crossing with Syria. AFP PHOTO/AHMAD AL-RUBAYE (Photo credit should read AHMAD AL-RUBAYE/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:AHMAD AL-RUBAYE via Getty Images)
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Iraqi Yazidis, who fled their homes a week ago when Islamic State (IS) militants attacked the town of Sinjar, gather at a makeshift shelter on August 10, 2014 in the Kurdish city of Dohuk in Iraq\'s autonomous Kurdistan region. \'The Kurdish peshmerga forces have succeeded in making 30,000 Yazidis who fled Mount Sinjar, most of them women and children, cross into Syria and return to Kurdistan,\' said Shawkat Barbahari, a Kurdhish official who is in charge of the Fishkhabur crossing with Syria. AFP PHOTO/AHMAD AL-RUBAYE (Photo credit should read AHMAD AL-RUBAYE/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:AHMAD AL-RUBAYE via Getty Images)
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Iraqi Yazidis, who fled their homes a week ago when Islamic State (IS) militants attacked the town of Sinjar, gather at a makeshift shelter on August 10, 2014 in the Kurdish city of Dohuk in Iraq\'s autonomous Kurdistan region. \'The Kurdish peshmerga forces have succeeded in making 30,000 Yazidis who fled Mount Sinjar, most of them women and children, cross into Syria and return to Kurdistan,\' said Shawkat Barbahari, a Kurdhish official who is in charge of the Fishkhabur crossing with Syria. AFP PHOTO/AHMAD AL-RUBAYE (Photo credit should read AHMAD AL-RUBAYE/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:AHMAD AL-RUBAYE via Getty Images)
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Iraqi soldiers and volunteers from the Abbas Unit fan out into a field in Jurf al Sakhr, 60 kilometers southwest of Baghdad, on August 10, 2014, after they reportedly pushed back Islamic jihadist fighter from the area. The main flashpoints with a large Islamic State presence around Baghdad are Jurf al-Sakhr, about 50 kilometres (30 miles) to the south, Fallujah, the same distance to the west, and a string of towns about 70 kilometres to the north. AFP PHOTO/MOHAMMED SAWAF (Photo credit should read MOHAMMED SAWAF/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:MOHAMMED SAWAF via Getty Images)
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A child sleeps as Iraqi Yazidis, who fled their homes a week ago when Islamic State (IS) militants attacked the town of Sinjar, gather inside a building under construction where they found refuge on August 10, 2014 in the Kurdish city of Dohuk in Iraq\'s autonomous Kurdistan region. \'The Kurdish peshmerga forces have succeeded in making 30,000 Yazidis who fled Mount Sinjar, most of them women and children, cross into Syria and return to Kurdistan,\' said Shawkat Barbahari, a Kurdhish official who is in charge of the Fishkhabur crossing with Syria. AFP PHOTO/AHMAD AL-RUBAYE (Photo credit should read AHMAD AL-RUBAYE/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:AHMAD AL-RUBAYE via Getty Images)
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Iraqi soldiers from the Abbas Unit fan out into a field in Jurf al Sakhr, 60 kilometers southwest of Baghdad, on August 10, 2014, after they reportedly pushed back Islamic jihadist fighter from the area. The main flashpoints with a large Islamic State presence around Baghdad are Jurf al-Sakhr, about 50 kilometres (30 miles) to the south, Fallujah, the same distance to the west, and a string of towns about 70 kilometres to the north. AFP PHOTO/MOHAMMED SAWAF (Photo credit should read MOHAMMED SAWAF/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:MOHAMMED SAWAF via Getty Images)
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Iraqi soldiers from the Abbas Unit walk along a road in Jurf al Sakhr, 60 kilometers southwest of Baghdad, on August 10, 2014, after they reportedly pushed back Islamic jihadist fighter from the area. The main flashpoints with a large Islamic State presence around Baghdad are Jurf al-Sakhr, about 50 kilometres (30 miles) to the south, Fallujah, the same distance to the west, and a string of towns about 70 kilometres to the north. AFP PHOTO/MOHAMMED SAWAF (Photo credit should read MOHAMMED SAWAF/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:MOHAMMED SAWAF via Getty Images)
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Iraqi soldiers from the Abbas Unit, line a dirt road in Jurf al Sakhr, 60 kilometers southwest of Baghdad, on August 10, 2014, after they reportedly pushed back Islamic jihadist fighter from the area. The main flashpoints with a large Islamic State presence around Baghdad are Jurf al-Sakhr, about 50 kilometres (30 miles) to the south, Fallujah, the same distance to the west, and a string of towns about 70 kilometres to the north. AFP PHOTO/MOHAMMED SAWAF (Photo credit should read MOHAMMED SAWAF/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:MOHAMMED SAWAF via Getty Images)
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Iraqi Yazidis, who fled their homes a week ago when Islamic State (IS) militants attacked the town of Sinjar, gather inside a building under construction where they found refuge on August 10, 2014 in the Kurdish city of Dohuk in Iraq\'s autonomous Kurdistan region. \'The Kurdish peshmerga forces have succeeded in making 30,000 Yazidis who fled Mount Sinjar, most of them women and children, cross into Syria and return to Kurdistan,\' said Shawkat Barbahari, a Kurdhish official who is in charge of the Fishkhabur crossing with Syria. AFP PHOTO/AHMAD AL-RUBAYE (Photo credit should read AHMAD AL-RUBAYE/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:AHMAD AL-RUBAYE via Getty Images)
U.S. Military Delivers Humanitarian Aid To Iraqi Civilians(10 of33)
UNSPECIFIED - AUGUST 9: In this handout image provided by the U.S. Department of Defense, Tech. Sgt. Lynn Morelly, 816th Expeditionary Airlift Squadron, C-17 Globemaster III loadmaster, watches bundles of halal meals parachute to the ground during a humanitarian airdrop mission on August 9, 2014 over Iraq. To date, in coordination with the government of Iraq, U.S. military aircraft have delivered more than 52,000 meals and more than 10,600 gallons of fresh drinking water, providing much-needed aid to the displaced Yazidis, who urgently require emergency assistance. (Photo by Staff Sgt. Vernon Young Jr./U.S. Air Force via Getty Images) (credit:Handout via Getty Images)
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Iraqi Kurdish Peshmerga fighters take position on the front line in Makhmur, about 280 kilometres (175 miles) north of the capital Baghdad, during clashes with Islamic State (IS) militants on August 9, 2014. Makhmur, is one of the areas that had been attacked by jihadist fighters in recent days. AFP PHOTO/SAFIN HAMED (Photo credit should read SAFIN HAMED/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:SAFIN HAMED via Getty Images)
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An Iraqi Kurdish Peshmerga fighter takes position on the front line in Makhmur, about 280 kilometres (175 miles) north of the capital Baghdad, during clashes with Islamic State (IS) militants on August 9, 2014. Makhmur, is one of the areas that had been attacked by jihadist fighters in recent days. AFP PHOTO/SAFIN HAMED (Photo credit should read SAFIN HAMED/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:SAFIN HAMED via Getty Images)
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Iraqi Kurdish Peshmerga fighters look on as smoke billows from the town Makhmur, about 280 kilometres (175 miles) north of the capital Baghdad, during clashes with Islamic State (IS) militants on August 9, 2014. Makhmur, is one of the areas that had been attacked by jihadist fighters in recent days. AFP PHOTO/SAFIN HAMED (Photo credit should read SAFIN HAMED/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:SAFIN HAMED via Getty Images)
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Iraqi Kurdish Peshmerga fighters take position on the front line in Makhmur, about 280 kilometres (175 miles) north of the capital Baghdad, during clashes with Islamic State (IS) militants on August 9, 2014. Makhmur, is one of the areas that had been attacked by jihadist fighters in recent days. AFP PHOTO/SAFIN HAMED (Photo credit should read SAFIN HAMED/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:SAFIN HAMED via Getty Images)
President Obama Departs White House For Martha's Vineyard Vacation(15 of33)
WASHINGTON, DC - AUGUST 09: U.S. President Barack Obama (C), first lady Michelle Obama (R) and their oldest daughter Malia Obama (L) walk out of the White House before boarding Marine One August 9, 2014 in Washington, DC. Obama delivered a statement about the ongoing U.S. military actions and humanitarian drops in northern Iraq before he and his family traveled to Martha\'s Vineyard for a two-week vacation. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images) (credit:Chip Somodevilla via Getty Images)
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US President Barack Obama delivers a statement before boarding Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House on August 9, 2014 in Washington, DC. Obama spoke before traveling with his family to Martha\'s Vineyard, in Massachusetts, for their summer vacation. Obama said France and Britain will support US humanitarian effort in Iraq. AFP PHOTO/Mandel NGAN (Photo credit should read MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:MANDEL NGAN via Getty Images)
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Kurds hold pictures of victims and shout slogans during a demonstration against the violent uprising of the jihadist group of theIslamic State (IS) on August 9, 2014 in Istanbul. US jets struck jihadist positions in northern Iraq, a potential turning point in a two-month crisis Washington said was threatening to result in genocide and to expose US assets. AFP PHOTO / OZAN KOSE (Photo credit should read OZAN KOSE/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:OZAN KOSE via Getty Images)
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Iraqis gather in Baghdad\'s Firdos Square as the rally to show their support for Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki on August 9, 2014. The United States in July threw its weight behind the newly elected president of Iraq, Fuad Masum, and urged him to form a \'cohesive government\' to help fight Islamic militants. Masum\'s election is another step towards forming a government which could see long-time embattled Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki replaced, even though his party won the largest bloc in April parliamentary elections. AFP PHOTO/SABAH ARAR (Photo credit should read SABAH ARAR/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:SABAH ARAR via Getty Images)
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Iraqis gather in Baghdad\'s Firdos Square as the rally to show their support for Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki on August 9, 2014. The United States in July threw its weight behind the newly elected president of Iraq, Fuad Masum, and urged him to form a \'cohesive government\' to help fight Islamic militants. Masum\'s election is another step towards forming a government which could see long-time embattled Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki replaced, even though his party won the largest bloc in April parliamentary elections. AFP PHOTO/SABAH ARAR (Photo credit should read SABAH ARAR/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:SABAH ARAR via Getty Images)
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Shiite Iraqi Kurds, known as \'Shabak\', displaced by fierce fighting between Kurdish peshmerga forces and jihadist militants from the Islamic State (IS) wait on the road between Kirkuk and Arbil after fleeing the area of Bartala near the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, on August 8, 2014. Jihadists seized Iraq\'s largest dam north of their hub of Mosul, giving them control over the supply of water and electricity for a vast area, officials said. AFP PHOTO / MARWAN IBRAHIM (Photo credit should read MARWAN IBRAHIM/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:MARWAN IBRAHIM via Getty Images)
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Iraqi military personnel distribute water to Shiite Iraqi Kurds, known as \'Shabak\', displaced by fierce fighting between Kurdish peshmerga forces and jihadist militants from the Islamic State (IS) after arriving on the road between Kirkuk and Arbil having fled the area of Bartala near the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, on August 8, 2014. Jihadists seized Iraq\'s largest dam north of their hub of Mosul, giving them control over the supply of water and electricity for a vast area, officials said. AFP PHOTO / MARWAN IBRAHIM (Photo credit should read MARWAN IBRAHIM/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:MARWAN IBRAHIM via Getty Images)
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Iraqi Kurdish Peshmerga fighters take position on the front line in Khazer, near the Kurdish checkpoint of Aski kalak, 40 km West of Arbil, the capital of the autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq, on August 8, 2014. A spokesman for the Kurdish peshmerga force said US warplanes bombed Islamic State jihadist targets in two areas of northern Iraq. AFP PHOTO/SAFIN HAMED (Photo credit should read SAFIN HAMED/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:SAFIN HAMED via Getty Images)
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Iraqi Kurdish Peshmerga fighters take position on the front line in Khazer, near the Kurdish checkpoint of Aski kalak, 40 km West of Arbil, the capital of the autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq, on August 8, 2014. A spokesman for the Kurdish peshmerga force said US warplanes bombed Islamic State jihadist targets in two areas of northern Iraq. AFP PHOTO/SAFIN HAMED (Photo credit should read SAFIN HAMED/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:SAFIN HAMED via Getty Images)
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Iraqi Kurdish Peshmerga fighters take position on the front line in Khazer, near the Kurdish checkpoint of Aski kalak, 40 km West of Arbil, the capital of the autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq, on August 8, 2014. A spokesman for the Kurdish peshmerga force said US warplanes bombed Islamic State jihadist targets in two areas of northern Iraq. AFP PHOTO/SAFIN HAMED (Photo credit should read SAFIN HAMED/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:SAFIN HAMED via Getty Images)
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US President Barack Obama speaks on the phone with King Abdullah II of Jordan in the Oval Office of the White House on August 8, 2014 in Washington, DC. US jets struck jihadist positions in northern Iraq on Friday, a potential turning point in a two-month crisis Washington said was threatening to result in genocide and to expose US assets. President Barack Obama\'s order for the first air strikes on Iraq since he put an end to US occupation in 2011 came after Islamic State (IS) militants made massive gains on the ground, seizing a dam and forcing a mass exodus of religious minorities. AFP PHOTO/Brendan SMIALOWSKI (Photo credit should read BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI via Getty Images)
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Iraqis inspect the scene of a car bomb explosion outside the Shiite Mustafa prayer hall, or Husseiniya, in the southwest of the northern Kurdish controlled Iraqi city of Kirkuk on August 7, 2014. A series of blasts outside Shiite prayer halls killed four people and wounded 19 others police and medical sources said. AFP PHOTO/ MARWAN IBRAHIM (Photo credit should read MARWAN IBRAHIM/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:MARWAN IBRAHIM via Getty Images)
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Iraqis carry a wounded victim at the scene of a car bomb outside the Shiite Mustafa prayer hall, or Husseiniya, in the southwest of the northern Kurdish controlled Iraqi city of Kirkuk on August 7, 2014. A series of blasts outside Shiite prayer halls killed four people and wounded 19 others police and medical sources said. AFP PHOTO/ MARWAN IBRAHIM (Photo credit should read MARWAN IBRAHIM/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:MARWAN IBRAHIM via Getty Images)
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Iraqis inspect the scene of a car bomb explosion outside the Shiite Mustafa prayer hall, or Husseiniya, in the southwest of the northern Kurdish controlled Iraqi city of Kirkuk on August 7, 2014. A series of blasts outside Shiite prayer halls killed four people and wounded 19 others police and medical sources said. AFP PHOTO/ MARWAN IBRAHIM (Photo credit should read MARWAN IBRAHIM/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:MARWAN IBRAHIM via Getty Images)
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Iraqis carry a wounded victim at the scene of a car bomb outside the Shiite Mustafa prayer hall, or Husseiniya, in the southwest of the northern Kurdish controlled Iraqi city of Kirkuk on August 7, 2014. A series of blasts outside Shiite prayer halls killed four people and wounded 19 others police and medical sources said. AFP PHOTO/ MARWAN IBRAHIM (Photo credit should read MARWAN IBRAHIM/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:MARWAN IBRAHIM via Getty Images)
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Iraqi Shiite volunteers who have joined government forces to fight Sunni jihadists from the Islamic State (IS) take part in a training session near the southern port city of Basra on August 7, 2014. A UN statement said some reports put the number of people forced to flee by the IS takeover at 200,000. AFP PHOTO / HAIDAR MOHAMMED ALI (Photo credit should read HAIDAR MOHAMMED ALI/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:HAIDAR MOHAMMED ALI via Getty Images)
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Iraqi Shiite volunteers who have joined government forces to fight Sunni jihadists from the Islamic State (IS) take part in a training session near the southern port city of Basra on August 7, 2014. A UN statement said some reports put the number of people forced to flee by the IS takeover at 200,000. AFP PHOTO / HAIDAR MOHAMMED ALI (Photo credit should read HAIDAR MOHAMMED ALI/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:HAIDAR MOHAMMED ALI via Getty Images)
IRAQ-UNREST-SHIITES(32 of33)
Iraqi Shiite volunteers who have joined government forces to fight Sunni jihadists from the Islamic State (IS) take part in a training session near the southern port city of Basra on August 7, 2014. A UN statement said some reports put the number of people forced to flee by the IS takeover at 200,000. AFP PHOTO / HAIDAR MOHAMMED ALI (Photo credit should read HAIDAR MOHAMMED ALI/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:HAIDAR MOHAMMED ALI via Getty Images)
US-IRAQ-OBAMA(33 of33)
US President Barack Obama speaks about the situation in Iraq in the State Dining Room at the White House in Washington, DC, August 7, 2014. Obama said he authorized air strikes and relief supply drops in Iraq to prevent \'genocide\' by Islamist extremists against minorities. \'We can act, carefully and responsibly, to prevent a potential act of genocide,\' Obama said, in an address as he announced military action. AFP PHOTO / Saul LOEB (Photo credit should read SAUL LOEB/AFP/Getty Images) (credit:SAUL LOEB via Getty Images)
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